Optimizing

Hi,
In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a Optimizations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt of free space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You
Essentially yes.

Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Marc305" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a
Optimizations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt
of free space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thank You

Optimizing

Hi,
In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a Optimiz
ations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt of free
space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank YouEssentially yes.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Marc305" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C49CF28B-DD22-4EB4-AFFB-EA22FFE83838@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a
Optimizations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt
of free space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thank You

Optimizing

Hi
In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a Optimizations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt of free space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables
Any help would be appreciated
Thank YouEssentially yes.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Marc305" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C49CF28B-DD22-4EB4-AFFB-EA22FFE83838@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> In Enterprise Manager 2000 as part of a Maintenance Plan. There is a
Optimizations Tab. Running this and choosing Reorganize data w/original amt
of free space, the same as Running dbreindex on the tables?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thank You

Optimizer not using Indexed View

Hi All
We are having problem on indexed views when we try to join to more than one
table that is not part of the original indexed view in a query. Has anybody
seen a similar problem?
Thanks
Atholl
See SQL examples below:
--New Indexed View - fact table grouped by three columns, no joins drop view
dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
CREATE VIEW dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
WITH SCHEMABINDING
AS
SELECT COUNT_BIG (*) AS Expr1
,a.business_unit_id
,a.date_id
,a.test_id
,sum(a.RECORD_COUNT_FAILED) record_count_failed
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
group by a.business_unit_id, a.date_id, a.test_id
CREATE UNIQUE CLUSTERED INDEX [ivx_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1] ON
[dbo].[IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1]
(business_unit_id, date_id, test_id) ON [Indexes]
--WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table id columns in
group by select bu.business_unit_id
,d.date_id
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_id
,d.date_id
--NOT WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table columns
in group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
,d.calendar_date_desc
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_srccd
,d.calendar_date_desc
--WORKING - joined to 1 dimension table, uses dimension table columns in
group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
-- ,d.calendar_date_desc
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
--inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_srccd
-- ,d.calendar_date_desc
I'm surprised that third query is using the indexed view -- what is the
execution plan for that?
Can you add business_unit_srccd to the view?
Adam Machanic
Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457
"Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6E3F6D63-6A57-4D9F-95B8-A6774E2D858B@.microsoft.com...
> Hi All
> We are having problem on indexed views when we try to join to more than
> one
> table that is not part of the original indexed view in a query. Has
> anybody
> seen a similar problem?
> Thanks
> Atholl
> See SQL examples below:
> --New Indexed View - fact table grouped by three columns, no joins drop
> view
> dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
> CREATE VIEW dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
> WITH SCHEMABINDING
> AS
> SELECT COUNT_BIG (*) AS Expr1
> ,a.business_unit_id
> ,a.date_id
> ,a.test_id
> ,sum(a.RECORD_COUNT_FAILED) record_count_failed
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> group by a.business_unit_id, a.date_id, a.test_id
> CREATE UNIQUE CLUSTERED INDEX [ivx_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1] ON
> [dbo].[IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1]
> (business_unit_id, date_id, test_id) ON [Indexes]
> --WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table id columns
> in
> group by select bu.business_unit_id
> ,d.date_id
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_id
> ,d.date_id
> --NOT WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table columns
> in group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
> ,d.calendar_date_desc
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_srccd
> ,d.calendar_date_desc
> --WORKING - joined to 1 dimension table, uses dimension table columns in
> group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
> -- ,d.calendar_date_desc
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> -- inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_srccd
> -- ,d.calendar_date_desc
>
|||Hi Adam
The execution plan does a Clustered Index Scan on the view; why are you
surprised that it uses the view?
Yes I could add business_unit_srccd to the view but this is just one of
about 30 columns on the business_unit table, I don't want to add them all to
the view.
The interesting thing is that it seems to work as long as I have the ID
columns in the Group By on the query. This is strange because the ID columns
come from the dimension tables and aren't even part of the view so why are
they any different from the other columns on the dimension tables?
Atholl
"Adam Machanic" wrote:

> I'm surprised that third query is using the indexed view -- what is the
> execution plan for that?
> Can you add business_unit_srccd to the view?
>
> --
> Adam Machanic
> Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457
> --
>
> "Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6E3F6D63-6A57-4D9F-95B8-A6774E2D858B@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||"Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E604176-E361-41C9-9FC6-4677B7DAE514@.microsoft.com...
> Hi Adam
> The execution plan does a Clustered Index Scan on the view; why are you
> surprised that it uses the view?
Even though it's doing a scan on the view, it still needs to do some
sort of lookup operation to get the values for that missing column -- how
expensive is that? I was assuming it would be a fairly expensive operation,
but perhaps the dimension is not large?
Adam Machanic
Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457

Optimizer not using Indexed View

Hi All
We are having problem on indexed views when we try to join to more than one
table that is not part of the original indexed view in a query. Has anybody
seen a similar problem?
Thanks
Atholl
See SQL examples below:
--New Indexed View - fact table grouped by three columns, no joins drop view
dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
CREATE VIEW dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
WITH SCHEMABINDING
AS
SELECT COUNT_BIG (*) AS Expr1
,a.business_unit_id
,a.date_id
,a.test_id
,sum(a.RECORD_COUNT_FAILED) record_count_failed
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
group by a.business_unit_id, a.date_id, a.test_id
CREATE UNIQUE CLUSTERED INDEX [ivx_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1] ON
[dbo].[IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1]
(business_unit_id, date_id, test_id) ON [Indexes]
--WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table id columns in
group by select bu.business_unit_id
,d.date_id
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_id
,d.date_id
--NOT WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table columns
in group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
,d.calendar_date_desc
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_srccd
,d.calendar_date_desc
--WORKING - joined to 1 dimension table, uses dimension table columns in
group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
-- ,d.calendar_date_desc
,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
bu.business_unit_id
-- inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
group by bu.business_unit_srccd
-- ,d.calendar_date_descI'm surprised that third query is using the indexed view -- what is the
execution plan for that?
Can you add business_unit_srccd to the view?
Adam Machanic
Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457
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"Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6E3F6D63-6A57-4D9F-95B8-A6774E2D858B@.microsoft.com...
> Hi All
> We are having problem on indexed views when we try to join to more than
> one
> table that is not part of the original indexed view in a query. Has
> anybody
> seen a similar problem?
> Thanks
> Atholl
> See SQL examples below:
> --New Indexed View - fact table grouped by three columns, no joins drop
> view
> dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
> CREATE VIEW dbo.IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1
> WITH SCHEMABINDING
> AS
> SELECT COUNT_BIG (*) AS Expr1
> ,a.business_unit_id
> ,a.date_id
> ,a.test_id
> ,sum(a.RECORD_COUNT_FAILED) record_count_failed
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> group by a.business_unit_id, a.date_id, a.test_id
> CREATE UNIQUE CLUSTERED INDEX [ivx_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1] ON
> [dbo].[IV_FACT_DIAGNOSTIC_RESULTS_1]
> (business_unit_id, date_id, test_id) ON [Indexes]
> --WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table id columns
> in
> group by select bu.business_unit_id
> ,d.date_id
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_id
> ,d.date_id
> --NOT WORKING - joined to 2 dimension tables, uses dimension table columns
> in group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
> ,d.calendar_date_desc
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_srccd
> ,d.calendar_date_desc
> --WORKING - joined to 1 dimension table, uses dimension table columns in
> group by select bu.business_unit_srccd
> -- ,d.calendar_date_desc
> ,sum(a.record_count_failed) record_count_1
> from dbo.fact_diagnostic_results a
> inner join dbo.lu_business_unit bu on a.business_unit_id =
> bu.business_unit_id
> -- inner join dbo.lu_date d on a.date_id=d.date_id
> group by bu.business_unit_srccd
> -- ,d.calendar_date_desc
>|||Hi Adam
The execution plan does a Clustered Index Scan on the view; why are you
surprised that it uses the view?
Yes I could add business_unit_srccd to the view but this is just one of
about 30 columns on the business_unit table, I don't want to add them all to
the view.
The interesting thing is that it seems to work as long as I have the ID
columns in the Group By on the query. This is strange because the ID column
s
come from the dimension tables and aren't even part of the view so why are
they any different from the other columns on the dimension tables?
Atholl
"Adam Machanic" wrote:

> I'm surprised that third query is using the indexed view -- what is the
> execution plan for that?
> Can you add business_unit_srccd to the view?
>
> --
> Adam Machanic
> Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
> http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457
> --
>
> "Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6E3F6D63-6A57-4D9F-95B8-A6774E2D858B@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||"Atholl" <Atholl@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E604176-E361-41C9-9FC6-4677B7DAE514@.microsoft.com...
> Hi Adam
> The execution plan does a Clustered Index Scan on the view; why are you
> surprised that it uses the view?
Even though it's doing a scan on the view, it still needs to do some
sort of lookup operation to get the values for that missing column -- how
expensive is that? I was assuming it would be a fairly expensive operation,
but perhaps the dimension is not large?
Adam Machanic
Pro SQL Server 2005, available now
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457
--